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Post by anon on Jul 20, 2009 6:57:11 GMT -5
so for those using the service...if you are ABD for "highest degree obtained" did you put an MA or a Phd with the future 2010 date?
I know technically my highest degree obtained was an MA in 2006, but I will have my phd by next year (if nothing blows up), so am I putting myself at a disadvantage in the employment service by putting "MA" instead of "PhD" with the 2010 date?
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Post by anon on Jul 20, 2009 9:04:27 GMT -5
Also for those who have used the employment service: Under the optional "Note to employer" should I write something? If so, how formal/long should it be?
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Post by noname on Jul 20, 2009 11:37:39 GMT -5
I would put your Master's as your highest degree "obtained" so as not to appear that you're misrepresenting yourself. I've noticed in ES, phone, and even campus interviews that many SC members are probing about candidates likelihood of finishing before starting, so you should be completely honest about your being ABD (and you should emphasize that you will finish, if indeed that's what you plan to do). Plus, there will be many other candidates who have finished.
That said, I think it will not put you at a disadvantage because I think most employers assume that the vast majority of candidates at the ES have or are working toward a Ph.D. anway--given the way the academic job market is today it's basically a prerequisite. I don't think any employer will assume you're going to be a terminal Master's just because you list that as your highest degree. They're presumably be looking at your CV, as well. Last year I was ABD and had 10+ interviews at the ES (none of which, I should note, resulted in a campus interview).
There is the separate issue of whether ABD's will have a more difficult time this year than in years past. I can imagine there will be many candidates who did not get tt jobs last year but have sinced obtained their Ph.D.s. (I know several in my own department, including me, although I've landed a cushy non-academic position) and will be hunting again this year.
I believe the other field you mentioned is if you have some special circumstance. I have never seen a reason to use it.
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Post by anon on Jul 20, 2009 15:41:43 GMT -5
Does anyone know on what day the employment service interviews will be taking place?
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Post by anon on Jul 20, 2009 15:43:32 GMT -5
Hours of Operation: The Employment Service will be open at the Hilton San Francisco from Friday afternoon to mid-day Tuesday, August 7- 11.
Friday, August 7 1:30 PM - 6:30 PM
Saturday, August 8 8:00 AM - 5:30 PM
Sunday, August 9 8:00 AM - 5:30 PM
Monday, August 10 8:00 AM - 5:30 PM
Tuesday, August 11 8:00 AM - 1:00 PM
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Post by anon on Jul 20, 2009 15:45:41 GMT -5
PS - That's just the general schedule. When individual schools interview during these time periods will vary depending on when the interviewers are available. You'll confirm an individual time slot through the Employment Service scheduling system.
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Post by anon on Jul 21, 2009 11:52:04 GMT -5
Do you think it's misleading to put PhD with 2010 (Expected)?
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Post by noname on Jul 21, 2009 14:56:11 GMT -5
anon--I think Ph.D. (expected) is 100 percent appropriate and it is probably what I'd put if the form will allow it.
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Post by Billy Madison on Jul 21, 2009 14:58:06 GMT -5
I have sucessfully searched twice in the past five years. Here is my take on the ASA Employment service. It tends to be very good if you are interested in small liberal arts schools. Such departments often have a limited number of faculty so you will be directly in contact with people making decisions on who to bring in for an interview. For larger departments, it might not be worth your time. You may be interviewing with the lowest ranking person in the department, who is staffing the booth so to say. However, in the end, what can it hurt to interview. You get some idea of questions you may face on a job interview and get to know people interviewing.
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Post by anon on Jul 22, 2009 9:40:05 GMT -5
how many employers were at last year's ES?
so far it seems there are only about 12 already listed on the site....
just trying to get an idea if this will increase or if this is all i should expect!
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Post by Anonymous on Jul 22, 2009 9:56:10 GMT -5
I know there was some discussion of this already, but would someone mind posting any ads from the Employment Service that aren't up on the Job Bank? I realize these jobs aren't necessarily guaranteed, but for those of us not registered for the Employment Service, it'd be nice to get an idea of potential openings.
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Post by thedodo on Jul 23, 2009 3:15:40 GMT -5
how many employers were at last year's ES? so far it seems there are only about 12 already listed on the site.... just trying to get an idea if this will increase or if this is all i should expect! Well, one thing to keep in mind is the free fall of the market. There were about 150 universities present in the 2007 ES. Last year that number fell to 71. |
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Post by anon on Jul 24, 2009 13:18:14 GMT -5
for those of you using ES - have you been contacted about scheduling interviews yet?
i have requested several interviews and have not heard back from anyone but i know it is still two weeks to the meeting.
anyone scheduled interviews yet?
thanks!
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Post by anon on Jul 24, 2009 14:05:10 GMT -5
None, here anon. But, I haven't requested any yet either so I am not the best person to be responding...
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Post by noname on Jul 24, 2009 17:42:06 GMT -5
I'm not using the ES this year, but last year the majority of employers responded to my request just before or even at ASA. I also received a couple of interview requests while I was at ASA, so it's important to check your e-mail frequently while you're there.
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