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Feb 24, 2009 9:34:41 GMT -5
Post by hs on Feb 24, 2009 9:34:41 GMT -5
Look, I'm frustrated and venting here! What fun!
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Feb 24, 2009 9:36:01 GMT -5
Post by anon on Feb 24, 2009 9:36:01 GMT -5
me too. i am also venting. but i am doing it anonymously.
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Feb 24, 2009 10:27:31 GMT -5
Post by I am anonymous on Feb 24, 2009 10:27:31 GMT -5
I'm venting too...I'm even doing it anonymously.
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Feb 24, 2009 20:06:28 GMT -5
Post by soc job seeker on Feb 24, 2009 20:06:28 GMT -5
I'm venting--I like the other format better. Thanks for trying to change things up, and thanks for running the rumor mill in general. I've really appreciated it this year. Good luck to all, and if things keep going like they are now, I'll probably be checking this site out again in the summer!!! Hang in there, everyone!
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Post by anon76 on Apr 7, 2009 8:43:55 GMT -5
karl,
can you get in touch with me? thanks, anonanon76
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Post by cpl on Apr 9, 2009 9:25:29 GMT -5
"karl" doesn't check the blog/forum as of the last time i spoke to him. he got a job last year.
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Venting
Apr 9, 2009 14:21:49 GMT -5
Post by Karl here on Apr 9, 2009 14:21:49 GMT -5
Hi, this is "Karl"
cpl, we may have talked, although I'm not sure. I can't remember if I've told anyone my pseudonym... (although I've probably outed myself a number of times).
To the anonymous person with a yahoo email address. I've emailed you. I even set up my own "anon" email address. Very secret agent like. fun fun.
:)
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Apr 12, 2009 20:37:59 GMT -5
Post by anon76 on Apr 12, 2009 20:37:59 GMT -5
admin of the rumor blog, please email me at anon.anon76@yahoo.com
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Apr 13, 2009 8:18:45 GMT -5
Post by hs on Apr 13, 2009 8:18:45 GMT -5
i'm the admin and have emailed you, anonymous yahoo person. agreed, karl, fun fun spy stuff here.
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Jul 27, 2009 15:58:52 GMT -5
Post by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 15:58:52 GMT -5
I'm somewhat surprised by the absence of venting from individuals who went through this exhausting and demoralizing process last year and didn't get a job. For me, it feels like last year's job market still hasn't ended--like it's one continual process until you find an academic job. That was no doubt fueled by the fact that I had an interivew in the spring for a late deadline job. I wonder whether (1) everyone feels refreshed now that the new job market season has begun, (2) everyone has gotten over it, or (3) such individuals are simply not posting to the board. I know it's not productive to focus on the negative events of the past, but I feel so jaded and tired I need some sort of boost to put me in the right attitude and frame of mind to do this again, hopefully go on interviews and give job talks again, and hopefully be successful at it. I wonder what others are feeling?
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Jul 27, 2009 16:15:06 GMT -5
Post by anonymous on Jul 27, 2009 16:15:06 GMT -5
Yep, I'm in the same boat, and feeling equally exhausted and demoralized. My only glimmer of hope is being a year ahead of a lot of people on the market, with an extra year of publications and a soon-to-be completed dissertation. And besides, what else is there to do but plug ahead? Still need a job...
But if it helps, I feel your pain!
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Jul 28, 2009 16:50:18 GMT -5
Post by serena on Jul 28, 2009 16:50:18 GMT -5
FWIW, some schools are behind the curve. My department (R1, if anyone cares) usually posts job ads one month after ASA. If the rumors in my department are correct (and they may not be), we're supposed to conduct 2 searches: 1 for race/ethnicity and 1 for gender. I'm reluctant to name my institution because these lines may get yanked.
For everyone on the job market this year, you have my sympathy and support. I hope that jobs don't disappear like they did last year.
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Jul 28, 2009 19:51:45 GMT -5
Post by damastes on Jul 28, 2009 19:51:45 GMT -5
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Post by anotamused on Aug 4, 2009 0:46:27 GMT -5
This year (2009-10) will be my third round on the job market. I now have a PhD in-hand, even more pubs than last time 'round (substantial then, even!), and hopefully a more refined sense of how to write cover letters. After applying for 90+ jobs, I also had a late-spring '09 interview: turned out to be a disaster position. Glad I didn't get it. But, I'm not sure I should keep using the 'ole Rumour Mill. Last year my partner threatened to find a way to block it on my computer since it was causing so much stress/tears/frustration (and providing so little solace -- and worthwhile/actionable info -- in return). I'm going to try hard this year, but if no job this year, fine... we've agreed to move somewhere sunny and move on with our lives. Academia's limitations are scraping at the flesh more and more every year. Remember what anarchist-sociologist Howard J. Ehrlich said as he left Iowa State's Soc Dept (and academia for good) during the upheaval of the 1960s/70s... "If [when?] a revolution comes, the lectern will be the wrong barricade to be behind." Adios!
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Post by pseudonym on Aug 6, 2009 8:43:16 GMT -5
I'm somewhat surprised by the absence of venting from individuals who went through this exhausting and demoralizing process last year and didn't get a job. For me, it feels like last year's job market still hasn't ended--like it's one continual process until you find an academic job. That was no doubt fueled by the fact that I had an interivew in the spring for a late deadline job. I wonder whether (1) everyone feels refreshed now that the new job market season has begun, (2) everyone has gotten over it, or (3) such individuals are simply not posting to the board. I know it's not productive to focus on the negative events of the past, but I feel so jaded and tired I need some sort of boost to put me in the right attitude and frame of mind to do this again, hopefully go on interviews and give job talks again, and hopefully be successful at it. I wonder what others are feeling? I feel for you. I was completely demoralized last year. I suppose I'm not venting because I'm over it AND I'm refreshed--we'll see how long it lasts. I vented a lot last year on this board, to my family, to my friends, to my significant other, in my head, etc. I plunged into a depression where I basically did nothing except bare minimum work requirements for 4 months. I came to realize that I just need to apply for jobs, keep a positive attitude, hope for the best, but plan for the worst. Although I hated the process, (I know this sounds corny) it made me a stronger person. I've never faced rejection on such a grand scale. As students pursuing Ph.D.'s, we're used to being successful in the majority of our pursuits--we're used to the idea that if we work hard enough, we will reach our goals like submitting our papers to journals or getting an A for our courses. Unfortunately, our abilities to secure work aren't completely contingent on our efforts to meet our goals--this is one goal that is beyond our control. Facing rejection has taught me that I can weather a storm well and that there are great people who are more than willing to help me along the way. Because I didn't land a job, I had to find other, less lucrative, benefit-free, part-time work. I had to learn to be thankful that I have a way to pay my bills, instead of ruminating over the fact that I deserve a great career and will not be able to enjoy my life the way I envisioned. I know that if I don't keep a positive attitude, my alternative is another year of depression and anxiety, and I'm not willing to go through it again. I'll look into the venting section from time to time to try and help people who are having trouble, but I'm going to try not to post a vent myself, which just seems to add to my misery. Good luck to everyone on the market this year, and remember to take care of yourselves in the process.
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